May 5, 2026
One Catholic’s explanation for opposing legal recognition of same–sex "marriage." We are in a covenant with God. The rules of the covenant are very important to God, so they should be very important to us, too. If we love our neighbor we should warn them against sin, not encourage them to sin.
| General Ken | ||||
| You’re a Catholic. Why did you oppose same-sex marriage? Doesn’t your religion preach love? How can you oppose love? What reasons can you have for such a retrograde position? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| I can explain my reasons, but we should define terms first. You won’t understand my explanation if you don’t understand the words I use. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Can’t we do this without using complicated technical terms? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| The biggest problem we have is a short word you have already used: "love." | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Are you suggesting that I don’t know what love is? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not at all. But to understand each other, we must know what we mean by the words we use. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| So what does love mean to you? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| To love someone is to want the best for them. To be willing to sacrifice for them. To forgive them if they sin against you. We Christians are commanded to “love your neighbor.” To “love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.” | ||||
| Catholics don’t have a problem with one homosexual loving another homosexual in the Christian usage of the word "love." We are all commanded to love our neighbors. Even to love our enemies. Christians are commanded to love both of those two homosexuals. Clearly we don’t have a problem with them having Christian love for each other. | ||||
| We are not commanded to have sex with those people, but we are commanded to love them. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Are you opposed to having sex? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not between a man and a woman who are married to each other. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| What about a man and a man who are married to each other? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| You already know the answer to that; in fact, this discussion started with you asking me to explain what reasons I had for sticking to my faith while liberals call me names. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Ok, so why do you oppose this great advance in society? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Before we get into my reasons, we have two more points we must establish. First, you asked me for my reasons. What you get will be my understanding of the "why" behind the teachings of the Church. | ||||
| There are only two reasons I might contradict the official Church teaching. I might be misinformed. Or I do not properly understand the teaching. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Ok, so you are not an official spokesman of the Church, and you don’t want to cross them. What is the other point? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| You should know what the basic assumptions I make and use in the logical analysis. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Logic? I was asking you about your faith. What do reason and logic have to do with faith? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| A lot. Theology and science are very much alike. Both use logic, and both use it in the same way when reasoning through problems. The important difference is that in Theology we accept divine revelation as true, whereas science does not consider it to be valid evidence. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Does that mean we are in for a lot of bible verses? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not too many, but you did ask me about my faith. To start with, just know that God is all knowing, all seeing, all powerful, all good, and loves each one of us. If we find anything that contradicts that, it means either our analysis is wrong, or our understanding of the result is faulty. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Ok. So, given that, where would you like to start? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| With a basic question: Why was Jesus crucified? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| He died so that our sins could be forgiven. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| So God the Father was willing to forgive us our sins, but only if we first killed His beloved Son? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| It doesn’t sound too good when you say it that way. In fact, it seems to contradict the assumption that God is all good. Yet, that answer is right out of Sunday school. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| And that answer is correct. It only seems like a contradiction. God is all good. | ||||
| This only seems like a contradiction because there is some information you didn’t get in Sunday school. Or maybe you forgot about it. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| What information? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| The Jewish people were in a covenant with God, and God wanted to make some changes to the Covenant; to make a new Covenant. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| A covenant, like a contract? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| No, very different. We don’t really have a word today that conveys the meaning of what a covenant was in biblical times. The word contract means more of a business relationship, and those relationships were common then, as they are now. | ||||
| While some contracts might run for years, most are much shorter in duration. Many last for only one transaction. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Covenants are longer term? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not just longer term; they are permanent. | ||||
| A covenant is a joining of two into one. In some cases it might be just two individuals, as with blood-brothers. It usually included the families, and tribes. They became a larger family, a larger tribe. Members of the larger family were expected to be loyal to each other, and to protect all of the family members. | ||||
| The closest thing to a covenant we have in recent memory is marriage. Marriage is more than joining two people together. It also joins two families together. Married people are related to their in-laws. At least, that was the rule before divorce became so common. That is still the rule for the Church. The Church still refers to Holy Matrimony as a "covenant of marriage." | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| I suppose that is why so many kings married princesses from other countries? It was a way forming an alliance? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Right. | ||||
| The rules of covenants called for severe punishments for anyone who breaks the covenant. Up to and including death. This applied to the covenant between God and the Jewish people. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| I remember that the Old Testament God was all fire-and-brimstone. Not like the loving God of the New Testament. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| As you come to know God better, you will see that there is only one God. It is the same God in the Old Testament as in the New Testament. The love is present throughout both, and the fire-and-brimstone didn’t go away at the end of the Old Testament. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| So what were the changes God wanted to make to the covenant? How would the new covenant be different from the old covenant? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| God was going to fulfill His promise to Abram to extend the covenant to everyone. He was also going to institute the sacraments. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| The sacraments were new with Jesus? Which ones? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Here are two examples. Jesus instituted the Sacrament of Holy Communion at the Last Supper. And He instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation when He gave St. Peter the power to forgive sins. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Couldn’t God just declare all sins have been forgiven? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Of course. But perhaps He wanted to emphasize that we must keep the commandments. Even with the possibility of forgiveness. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Perhaps? You don’t know? Just guessing? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| We can make inferences based on the certainty that whatever God did, God intended to do. We must be cautious; we don’t have all of the information that God has. Even if we did, we can’t see it through God’s eyes. We may be correct in believing we know a reason God did what He did. But God might have had several more reasons for His actions. The reason we identify might be the least important reason to God. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| How can you be sure your inferences are any good? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| We must test them against all of the commandments, and all of the scriptures. We are wrong if our inference fails to keep the commandments. Or if it is inconsistent with what the scriptures tell us about God’s plan. | ||||
| Why don’t I tell you why I concluded that God wanted to re-emphasize the importance of keeping the commandments, then you can tell me if it is reasonable? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Ok. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| The Jews were in a covenant with God, and the Jews had broken the covenant. Under the rules of covenants there should be a severe punishment for the guilty. The guilty would have to offer something to atone for their sins; the guilty had to offer God a reason to forgive them. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| And He would have such a reason if we first killed His Son? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Yes, but to see why, we should approach it from another angle. What would it take to "make it right" if one side had violated a covenant? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| I suppose an apology wouldn’t do. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not for the serious violations. As it was, the Jewish people had broken the covenant too severely, too many times, and over too long a time. The rules of covenants called for most or all of the Jewish people to be punished with death. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Then there wouldn’t be many Jewish people left to keep the new covenant. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| One way to avoid that would be for a sacrificial victim to take the punishment. Someone could accept the punishment for all of the sins. If God agreed, the Jewish people could be forgiven. | ||||
| What type of person would make an acceptable sacrificial lamb? What would God demand of such a person? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| I haven’t really given it any thought. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Well, consider a similar case. Suppose you are in a covenant with a group of people, and some of those people deliberately harmed you. You survive the attack, and you have caught them all, and have them at your mercy. | ||||
| So the villains suggest you punish some random traveler passing through town. Would you accept that as justice? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| That’s a non-starter. For the punishment to be just, it must punish the guilty, not the innocent. The random traveler isn’t part of their group, and had nothing to do with their attack. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| It must be one of their group? What if the villains offer up some innocent person in their group, perhaps some child who didn’t even know about the attack? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| That isn’t really any different than the first suggestion. Again, for justice the punishment must fall on the guilty, not the innocent. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| The villains quickly confer among themselves, pick the least-popular of their group, and offer him to your justice so that you will let the rest go unpunished. Would that be acceptable? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| No, they are just looking for a way out. Each of the villains deserves punishment, so no single one of them would be an acceptable substitute. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| What about a volunteer? If there is a member of the group who kept to the covenant, advised the others not to attack you, and even tried to stop the attack. If such a person came forward and offered to accept the punishment if you would spare the others, what would you do? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| At least in that case, I might consider it. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| That is what Jesus offered to our Father. | ||||
| Jesus became man. He lived under the covenant, and kept the covenant perfectly. Then, knowing what the punishment was, He offered Himself as the Sacrificial Lamb. He willing took the punishment others deserved so that those others might be forgiven. He Who was without sin, and worthy of all the benefits God has promised, offered Himself to suffer the punishment for sins He had not committed. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Buy why would God the Father accept such an offer? It still has the problem that the punishment isn’t falling on the guilty, but on the innocent. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Jesus’ offer of Himself as the Sacrificial Lamb upheld justice. It was in perfect keeping with the covenant between God and His people. And it appealed to God’s generosity and mercy. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Start with justice; how can it be just to punish the innocent and let the guilty go free? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Jesus was not an innocent bystander rounded up for an unjust punishment; He volunteered for the sacrifice. He did not ask that justice be delayed or denied, only that He be allowed to suffer the punishment in place of the guilty. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| How does that keep the covenant? Was there something in the covenant about taking the punishment for others? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Remember the two greatest commandments. The first is: love God above all else. The second is: love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus’ offer of Himself was a perfect example of the greatest love you can have for your neighbor. If God the Father accepted Jesus’ offer, then Jesus’ neighbors would have a chance of redemption. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| And this appealed to God’s generosity and mercy? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Jesus had kept the covenant perfectly. He was worthy of the rewards God had promised to the faithful. Jesus named the reward He wanted, a chance at redemption for others. He offered Himself as the sacrificial victim. His request and offer did not deny justice, and was a perfect example of keeping the covenant. | ||||
| If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask Him? | ||||
| How could God the Father refuse? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| And God the Father accepted the offer, and let Jesus be crucified. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| By us. For our good. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Ok. That seems to explain why an all-loving, all-good God would allow the death of His beloved Son as a way of forgiving us our sins. | ||||
| Is any of this relevant to us? You said the covenant was between God and the Jewish people. How does that concern those of us who are not Jewish? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| God had promised to Abram that He would extend the covenant to the whole world. Jesus told His disciples to spread the Word to everyone. | ||||
| God keeps His promises. We are all now part of the covenant. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| All of that doesn’t seem closely related to same-sex marriage. I assume there is a reason you started with the question of why Jesus was crucified. So, what lesson should we draw from this? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Your assumption is correct. I started with that question to emphasize how important the rules of the covenant are to God. | ||||
| If the rules of the covenant didn’t matter that much, then God could easily have just forgiven us our sins without anyone suffering. But that didn’t happen. Instead, Jesus suffered a horrible death. This shows that the rules of the covenant do matter a great deal to God, and therefore they should also matter a great deal to us. | ||||
| God keeps His promises. But remember, He promised salvation to those that love Him and keep His commandments. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| I suppose you are going to point out that in the Old Testament sodomy was a sin. But Jesus died so that our sins are forgiven. That should be the end of that. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Jesus died so our sins could be forgiven. He did not abolish the laws of the covenant. Sins aren’t automatically forgiven. It is still possible to sin, and we are still commanded not to sin. To quote Jesus: | ||||
| Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. | ||||
| go, and sin no more. | ||||
| If ye love Me, keep My commandments. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| So you won’t enter into a same-sex marriage. | ||||
| Why do you want laws that harm others? Why prevent those who do want a same-sex marriage from marrying the ones they love? Why deny them the benefits of a legal marriage? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| If we really love our neighbor, would we encourage him to sin? Doesn’t our love of our neighbor impose on us a duty to speak out, and at least warn against sin? The rush to confer legal benefits to sin may show a fashionable "tolerance," but it does not show any real love for our neighbors. | ||||
| This "tolerance" does not help our neighbors, and it harms us. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| So you must be in favor of making sodomy illegal again? Do you want to make laws to punish all sins? | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| No. We have found it wise to enact some of God’s commandments into our laws. But not all. We could get different laws in different states if we return to enacting laws in a democratic way. Some states might allow same-sex civil unions. Some states might ban both sodomy and same-sex marriage. Some might ban same sex marriage but allow sodomy. Some might encourage both same-sex marriage and sodomy. | ||||
| Some states might keep traditional marriage and allow same-sex civil unions. That way they can show fashionable "tolerance" and still give moral guidance. | ||||
| The Church does not require our man-made laws to match the commandments. For example, it is a sin to not keep holy the day of the Lord, and it is a sin to take the name of the Lord in vain. None of our man-made laws address either of those sins. Even if some states still have laws against adultery, they don’t enforce them anymore. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| But those are victimless sins, or have the consent of everyone involved. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Is consent of the participants your guiding principle? Then should it be legal for an employer and employee to agree that the wage for the employee’s job will be less than the minimum wage? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| As a society, we have decided that a living wage is more important than the mutual consent in such cases. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| That happened with marriage, too. Some states had laws against same-sex marriages. They, as a society, decided to preserve marriage. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| But it was unconstitutional. Those states denied homosexuals equal treatment. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Not true. When same-sex marriage was forbidden, it was not the sexual preference of the parties that mattered, but their sex. Take a simple exercise and see for yourself. Consider these sentences about what state laws allowed and prohibited just a few years ago: | ||||
| A male may marry a female. | ||||
| A male may not marry a male. | ||||
| A female may not marry a female. | ||||
| Sexual preference was not a factor. There was equal treatment. Score one for democratically enacted laws. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| So what? Only homosexuals would want to be in a same sex marriage. So saying that heterosexuals may not be in a same-sex marriage doesn’t make it equal treatment under the law. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| The same thing can be said of all laws. Only those who want to steal someone else’s property are constrained by laws against theft. Only those who want to kill someone are limited by the laws against murder. Are the laws against theft and murder unconstitutional because only some people want to break them? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| That isn’t a fair comparison; the murder victim doesn’t give his consent to be murdered. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| So we are back to consent? What about the laws that forbid a rich campaign donor from giving lots of cash to a willing candidate? Both consent. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| We, as a society, want to keep our elections clean and fair. We have laws regulating campaign finance. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| What if we, as a society, want some public good? If that public good is important enough, can we, as a society, can pass a law that prevents consenting adults from doing something? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| Yes. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Who decides if the public good is important enough? | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| We, the people, do that. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| It sounds like that is what we, the people, did when we enacted the laws against same-sex marriage. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| But we, the people, changed the Constitution. We made declared laws banning same-sex marriage unconstitutional. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Was that done by “we the people” or by the Supreme Court? It seems like those laws were constitutional for over two centuries, and then suddenly they weren’t. | ||||
| The last time the states ratified an amendment was in 1992. The "right" to same-sex marriage was added in 2015. Without ratification by the states. | ||||
| Blayden Balance | ||||
| Sometimes we make such changes to the Constitution through the amendment process spelled out in the Constitution; sometimes the Supreme Court changes the Constitution to reflect what the Court thinks the people should want. In this case, the change to the Constitution and to our laws was decided by a 5 to 4 vote of the Court. | ||||
| General Ken | ||||
| It is now the law of the land. You should get behind it, or at least learn to live with it. | ||||
| Matthias | ||||
| Disagreeing with Supreme Court decisions seems to be allowed. Democrat Party leaders have been known to publicly criticize some Court decisions. | ||||
| Perhaps even an ordinary citizen might be allowed the same privilege? | ||||


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